For sheer laziness, just grab TeraTerm with the TTSSH extension. Freeware windows telnet client, and the TTSSH extension gives you SSH. > > out of sheer laziness I occasionally use cygwin to ssh to my box--- > cygwin uses twm... Anybody out there have any success stories of using > some other window manager with cygwin? > _____ Elevators smell different to midgets.